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s11e06

Gravy Train

Originally aired: September 8, 2022

The Teachers discuss Todd’s play and do some deep reflection after meditating.

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How much melatonin do you put in the drinks? Because I I I feel like I'm still sleepwalking

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also, I didn't know that melatonin was a comp a common supplement for a smoothie at a gym.

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Yep. Yeah. I've been I've been messing around with melatonin just because I feel like it's a nice natural sleep aid.

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That's what I like about it. It doesn't put you right to sleep.

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Right. And it makes it the thing I like most about Melatonin is that it's almost impossible to weigh up. Yeah. The next morning, like, it gives you that good grog.

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I am there, my man. I mean, I had to tell the guy that pulled me over, officer, I took a lot of melatonin, I'm a little sleepy. I only ran over that guy's foot. The dog is different laws. If you run over a dog, it's not like you run over a person. Right. And I was so tired.

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Well, and feet aren't fair, they stick out. It's not like I ran over his leg. Yeah. It was his foot. It was protruding.

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It was a protruding foot. And honestly, there should be laws about how much this guy's foot was on the road.

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I'll say this. I think we should ban clowns from being able to walk around on the street. Fully agree.

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I it was a clown.

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You did get a clown foot on under the influence of Melatonin this morning. The the town clown.

0:01:53 Unknown Speaker #4

Did they make you blow? Yeah.

0:01:55 Unknown Speaker #3

Oh, yeah. They're melatonin now, I've been putting it so much in so many drinks. It's become part of the influence -- Mhmm.

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under the influence -- Yeah.

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--

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--

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if you will. So did you have did you yeah. Did you do they blow do they blow you? Because I feel like it wouldn't No. Sorry. Not not I didn't even like that.

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Not in a sexual way.

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No. Like, do do you have to blow? Because I feel like, would melatonin show in the blow?

0:02:20 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, no. It's not a blow. Yeah. You have to describe the way you feel, and they decide if you've had too much or not. And so and they know if you're lying. And of course, I'm doing this all by the way, traumatized face covered in pie.

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You know,

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Oh, oh, yeah.

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before the

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cops got there, the clown and I

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had it out. The town clown pied you in the face.

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Pied me in the face. I just wanted to smell his flower, and instead I get seltzer in the nose.

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You should go.

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And you are currently still you look like a balloon animal. You've tied up and tied up like a giraffe.

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Yeah. I'm a giraffe now, and because those skills go beyond balloon animals. If you could you know, if you can tie a balloon, you can tie a person.

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Absolutely.

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So town clown got me good.

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Well, and you got him at least you killed his dog.

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At least, you killed his dog.

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Yeah. Well,

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he's got a little fake dog that he has his arm in that it's part of his bit

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to tell him about.

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He puppets his dog, and it it's, like, It's nowhere near as funny as triumph. No. No. We're near. This dog's just a little fucker that's nice kids, you know. And it's like

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--

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right.

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where's the laughs? Where's the, like, art needs to be aggressive.

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Yeah. And there has to be a victim. In in comedy, there has to be a victim. I've always said that.

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Yes.

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Yeah. You gotta you gotta take the piss out of But Oh, yeah.

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Carlin, the victim was the damn system. Yeah.

0:03:43 Unknown Speaker #4

Do you guys remember when we took that trip to London and learned about taking the piss. That was one of the best weeks of my life.

0:03:52 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. We did the take of the piss tour of London, and they kind of showed you all the ways that they take the piss out there.

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Oh, God. And and it was not what I thought it was. For all you Americans who don't know -- Yeah.

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they don't actually take piss out of your system. Right.

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--

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We're we're over there. We're holding up our pee. Yes. We're holding up our pee to go on the double decker bus in it.

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Well, I was gonna be

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so embarrassed if

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i didn't have any piss

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for them to take.

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Rav. Imagine

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they come imagine they come up to you and they ask you for your piss, and you don't have any piss to give them.

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It happens if they knock there

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Right. I do.

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all the time for me.

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If you don't have a big belly full of piss, they'll take the piss out of you about that. Yes?

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Yeah. That's what we were worried about is they're gonna take the piss about us not having not enough piss.

0:04:35 Unknown Speaker #4

That was a stressful tour. Even though it was really fun, it was so stressful being on the very edge of the worst I've ever had to go to the bathroom, and also don't go.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing is they're not actually taking it. They're take you around London

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They -- teaching you about the idea of kind of being made

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yeah.

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--

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fun of. But they do take you by fountains,

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little trickles of water to find

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you of peeing, And it's it's it's weird, this tour.

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It's an incredibly odd tour.

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What most cultural tours are? I mean, if it's not your you're gonna think it's a little weird.

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Of course. If you don't grow up holding your pee and taking tours around to to to tour little trickles of water and and fountains and stuff. It's gonna be weird to you. Yeah.

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This is gonna be odd to you. Just like there, They like their tea very strong.

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Mhmm. Yes.

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They're English breakfast, you know. Mean. That's not for me.

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Oh, I love an English breakfast, by the way. You have eggs, beans

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--

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little piece of mushroom,

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--

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keep it going.

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oh, a little piece of mushroom.

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By the way, who out there loves their tomatoes hot? Like, I couldn't use for you.

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Room tip to hot tomatoes.

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Also, nothing is more appetizing to me than a watery bean dumped on a white plate and just like one layer one thin layer of beans I was

0:05:57 Unknown Speaker #4

so upset the whole trip. I couldn't get a goddamn real breakfast anywhere. What Where's the denny's? To me, what's

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what I really like about English breakfast is All it is is the dustpan from a grocery store. So they sweep the grocery store, and then they dump that on a plate, and it's got a little bit of everything.

0:06:15 Unknown Speaker #1

That's true. And that's look, I don't wanna get into this because it's political, but that's why they killed Diana. She wouldn't eat being with breakfast anymore and -- Right.

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--

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we had had it up to here with her, and now Markle's dealing with it.

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Oh, and we loved Diana. We loved Diana. I had pictures of her all over my bedroom. Yeah.

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You are Diane ahead.

0:06:38 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh. Well, that was those were the days where it was either Diana or Teresa. And I was a mother Teresa guy. Man, man. Right?

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There was only one philanthropist you could like.

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Man, and right.

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I'll be honest with you. There it was a really tough time to be a dody head.

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Yes. Yeah. There because

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as everybody knows, I pre before he even was in a relationship with Diana, I was a huge dodie, alfredid fan. Yeah.

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You just really liked hair rods.

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Yeah. A lot of people don't know that he was one of the final remaining dodo birds.

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Yeah.

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So he was a dodie bird.

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It was a dodie bird.

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Don't know if I had

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don't know if I had if you look closely, you can see feathers It's it's just like the dinosaurs.

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You know?

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So the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs. She was actually a dinosaur, and he was a dodie What

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if you look closely at the accident if you look closely at the accident, you could tell. I mean, feathers flew out of the car.

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Yeah.

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It was the final dinosaur death. A lot of people say. That's what and that's why it was

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such a tragic

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new year. It wasn't the meteor.

0:07:45 Unknown Speaker #4

No. It wasn't the meteor at all. It wasn't the meteor at all. Yeah.

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It was the media. Media.

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The media. The media.

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The media made that dinosaurs go extinct. The meteor.

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It would just tell me, say it in England, of course. Meteor. The meteor was

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The meteor killed Dianosaur and dodo Fayed.

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after her.

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We know this. We know this because we study. We go on the Internet. Mhmm. We Google what really happened

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yeah. -- we are contrary yet.

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--

0:08:15 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. What is better than someone saying something and you telling them why they're wrong for forever? For a long this conversation.

0:08:25 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, my favorite thing to do is do it with at a hair trigger. So I don't even have to listen to them be done before I disagree.

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I disagree.

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See, I knew you were good enough to do it. And God's honest truth, I appreciate it.

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And I agree.

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I hear you both and here's why I think you're wrong.

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Okay. I'll listen to you.

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Yeah. It's just not that. It's not that.

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And I think you think that. But if you think a little bit deeper and you follow the money. But do

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Uh-huh. Yeah.

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you know what's actually really interesting? Do you know what's actually really interesting?

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You got all the money.

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What is really interesting?

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What? You guys follow the money. You had that what you were gonna say, Donovan?

0:08:57 Unknown Speaker #1

I agree. Follow-up. Yeah. And if everybody's watching this, we've, of course, gone the Ben Shapiro frame rate, so everything looks Absolutely robotic while we're talking here.

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Shappear who has really helped us.

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She should be right at Shapero's our cinematographer. Yeah.

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Yeah. He's great behind the camera, Shapiro.

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Yeah. I'll tell you what though. Our ladder budget is through the roof this season because he can't see into the camera.

0:09:23 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, yes. We do need a ladder for that short little tour to get up to the camera. And no offense to if you're short, that's fine. But if you're a short little twerp, it is funny that you're short. Yes. I I got no problem. You can

0:09:35 Unknown Speaker #3

unlock Here's the thing about being a dick. You can unlock body shaming

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if you

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suck. Oh, I feel the presence of the lord. Yes, lord. If you suck, people can make fun of how you look. That's just how it goes.

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And it

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doesn't apply to everyone that looks that way

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--

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no. -- but it does

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they will feel it. They will feel it.

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They'll feel it. But it's your it's your fault, for sucking, you know? Shapiro, I mean, specifically. Shapiro.

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If you make fun of somebody who sucks and you use their body to do it, bystanders will be hurt by your comments, but it's okay.

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It's okay.

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It's okay.

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Speaking of bystanders being offended by your comments,

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oh, no. You got rid

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so many directions.

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Oh, no. This could be either of us.

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Howard got lit up during the previews of the play.

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Which also, I thought we embargoed reviews for after the show actually premiered.

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Now we put tariffs

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you know? And people pay we

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are taxing the reviews and people are paying

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the tax. We'll pay a premium to print reviews. They wanna pay the tax. And it made me so upset to before the curtain fell, I obviously have Google alerts set up for my own name. And before the curtain fell

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worst Google alerts. To set up a Google alert for Levi's

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--

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yes.

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--

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your phone your emails are constantly full.

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Yeah. So it sucks. It sucks to have a phone and I can't never have my alerts on my my notifications on as if I did. Because you

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gotta be like, wait a minute. Am I on sale for Labor Day?

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Yeah.

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Oh, no. Right.

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It's a Oh. But but

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am I shrinking to fit? Luckily, it depends.

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Right before you went on stage, you did find out how to a filter to just things about you -- Yes.

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--

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but as soon as you stepped on stage, phone buzzing off the hook.

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Yep? Before the place started.

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People were immediate immediate reviews.

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And it did have slight effect on you remembering your lines? I

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would Yeah.

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Well, one of the reviews towards the end was, like, this guy hasn't said a complete sentence in three and a half hours.

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Mhmm. You did review the time.

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He said

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he said you said line two thousand times.

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Yeah.

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And to be fair, it was written into the script.

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A Fed time, Todd.

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That's a big trick. That's a big trick for your outdoors out there.

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Todd, I'm gonna tell you

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right line into the script, and then no one ever knows if you've gone up as

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i say.

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Fair for

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you to do that when you're writing for yourself, but it's really unfair when you're writing for other people. It feels like I should have known when I was reading the first draft of the script that there were a few trap doors, you could say literally can't figure

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it

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for figuratively in the script. A few word booby traps, if you know what I mean. I said a few things that

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--

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didn't I didn't sort of vet beforehand. Turns out that it didn't sort of go over very well with any audience.

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well -- I

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And Howard, of course, you're upset. I mean, you're doing today's recording from the trapdoor. In the floor, we couldn't get you

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out of that.

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Yeah. If you notice there is a little bit of echo on my microphone. It's because I'm about thirty five feet below the stage. Yeah. Well, we can't

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get you up because of the bins.

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Yes. We have to go slow to bed.

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That's not what the beds are. I told you guys.

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No. We we don't we are serious about the bed.

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We do not want you to get the beds we love you so much.

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Have you ever had the bends? It's one of the worst weird things you can do.

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So we all currently have the bends right now. No. We got our brains are carbonated and -- Yep.

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people keep walking in and popping our tops and having a big simple buzz And that's the worst part about the bend.

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--

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drinking you in pizza place. Yeah. And we're good.

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People are

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The Bens are so much better here. I don't know what it is.

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I only drink the Bens when I'm eating pizza.

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Well, our Uber driver picked us up from a valley. And then drove fast up the hill in his Mercedes. So we got the Mercedes Benz

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and He, of course, was in an old timey scuba suit, so he was fine.

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He was fine. He like he was in that cuba getting junior movie. Met of honor. Yep.

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Acts of valor. Acts of

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valor or

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men of

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valor. Met of Bell. Well, we we he told us, but we couldn't hear him through the

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suit. Right. Right.

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But Howard, we we want to get you out of there. We're just going so slow and patient there.

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I still think you guys have a fundamental misunderstanding what the bends is. There's no water involved.

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That's where you're wrong. And and I had understand why you think that way, obviously, understood. Based on your background and all that, but that's where you're absolutely wrong. Go ahead. Go ahead. This is interesting

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to say. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter. Go ahead.

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Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. How what do you blame us for being careful to bring

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pizza place. It's awful.

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you up to our level? We've been getting drank at

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We're obviously just going in to get those little tables because we're redecorating.

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We're trying to steal little tables from pizza places to go down.

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Because we're planning on hosting an event for mice. And Wait. The pizza plastic top

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i have a plastic topper that goes on the What do you

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mean you're hosting an event for mice?

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Not I couldn't say any more clearly.

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Do not tell me.

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are replacing

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Well, let's

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just say

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you guys

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me on

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the podcast with the the mouse that's in the terrarium.

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Well, we're out of chewie, was it hit?

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He read you as a hit. He's bringing his own.

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You can't be replaced on a thing where you are a guest. You know, if you were one of the cohost, you'd be replaced. We might be trying out other guests. Yes.

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And the Maise comes with his a lot of his own listeners. He's adding value to the pun.

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It's really we he's got a lot of followers.

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This little fucker doesn't have any listeners. Whoa.

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Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Little fucker.

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You see now?

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This is one of our new cohosts. No. We treat our cohosts with respect.

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I see. No. That a

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every one of them.

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Every You

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wouldn't know because you're a guest. But when the cohosts are in the room, they get treated with respect. So when the mouse comes in later to do his funny segment, I want you to respect him.

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This makes me so sad.

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Respect now.

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guy is that guy, I even I gave I said he's a guy. He's not a guy. He's a little animal. Well, he's podcast. No. And he he has made my life in the terrarium a living hell. And you guys Yes. And it this is almost like this is almost like you guys inviting my ex girlfriend to be the the a cohost on the podcast. Well, we hate to tell

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Oh, okay.

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Well That

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you we hate to tell you. We got an email out here.

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What? Mister Streina?

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Yes. Well, she hasn't returned yet, but we're checking her avails.

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I think she's doming us with no response.

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Right? Right?

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She even doms over email, which is really powerful. Yeah.

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And it's it's interesting. I am feeling more interested and more attracted

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to her.

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Yes. Same?

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Same in love with her. Don't talk about I don't wanna hear

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about this. I'm in love with her, I guess.

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in love with everybody who hasn't responded to my emails.

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We're all

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Which is a lot of people.

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Yeah. Brie Larson, Salvador Dolly, Barack Obama, Donald Trump. Drunk drove by then.

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We love getting ghosted. We love them.

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But but while you're down, have we started the show? It feels like we started it. We started it. Did you hit record down there?

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I we've been recording.

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Yeah. Okay. Okay. Good.

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We'll just make sure and bring that recorder up very gingerly because the audio gets the bend.

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The audio can't get

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the bends. You guys don't understand what the bend. We don't and absolutely have pressure. And you can't get it in in the if if you could get the bends, you would get you would die from going up in an airplane or whatever. It's about water. No.

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They pressurized the cabin. Have you ever driven down a hill and and cracked your ears?

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Yeah. But that's not what the bend cracks are. They're crushed. To be watered.

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You crack your knuckles? You crack

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your ears? I beg you guys to crack open a book or a computer. You say you Google things

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why you're wrong. That's why we're absolutely wrong. As you just started looking at the sources, my YouTube suggestions and my TikTok suggestions are educating me.

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Yeah.

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In a way, school never could. Yes. Because it's all beautiful people. And that's what's really helpful. And the ugly ones, you say don't show me you guys that look like this again? And then you're just getting beautiful people telling you very interesting smart things.

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I'm tired of the world looking ugly. Aren't you? I only kinda I thought about it. I really wanted to curate my experience with beauty only.

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It's awesome. I got rid of my mirrors, which helped.

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Genius idea.

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It's I don't see an ugly person ever now because it's not on my phone. It's not in front of me in the mirrors. All my mirrors are now pictures of yazmine belief.

0:18:08 Unknown Speaker #4

Wow. That's genius current? Or nineties.

0:18:11 Unknown Speaker #1

Ninety's either. Yeah.

0:18:12 Unknown Speaker #4

Genius. Sometimes I'll do the same thing. I'll walk in front of my mirror, see whoever's in there, and get so upset by what I'm looking at that I stay there all day.

0:18:22 Unknown Speaker #4

I stay there all day and I start to get miserable. Now the guy in the mirror crying. That's making me sad. Right. Then when I'm sad, I get angry.

0:18:22 Unknown Speaker #2

Oh.

0:18:31 Unknown Speaker #3

Right. The guy in the mirror is bumming me out too. Yes. Like, he's, like, one of my least favorite people. Yes.

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Yeah. It's not good to be around him.

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I've been trying to put boundary up with the man in the mirror, the guy in the mirror, and whoo. But I just can't seem to get him to leave me alone. He's there when I'm brushing my teeth. He's there when I'm Well, I don't brush my teeth. He's there when I'm in there -- Right.

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water. And he's

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--

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there when you're throwing your toothbrush out in

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the morning. Do you guys do you guys wanna know the biggest breakthrough I've ever had in my entire wife?

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The back of your pants when you thought you were a thirty two.

0:19:20 Unknown Speaker #2

Do you wanna know add the second biggest break through my entire life.

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Okay.

0:19:23 Unknown Speaker #3

Wow. Todd nailed it. No. We don't know. We don't wanna know about the trampoline you've got on you were nine. Okay. You're

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the third.

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talking about

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Yeah. Biggest breakdown. Are

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you talking about emotional? Are you talking about emotional? Yes. The third biggest the

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third biggest emotional breakthrough because the other you were emotionally No.

0:19:40 Unknown Speaker #4

Let's not forget the one where someone yelled Kool Aid and they thought it was you and you ran through the wall.

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Oh, I thought that's actually

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too Your mama.

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Oh, yo mama I do miss your mama.

0:19:53 Unknown Speaker #1

But go ahead. Sorry, Howard.

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I was gonna say, the one of the big I'll say one of so we don't list anymore of my breakthroughs. Right. One of the biggest breakthroughs I've ever had in my entire life was when I realized, when I walked past that mirror, that the man looking back at me, was actually me.

0:20:08 Unknown Speaker #4

Wow.

0:20:09 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Yeah.

0:20:10 Unknown Speaker #2

What? And I know you guys like to sort of disassociate from that, but I think the most important thing about growing as a human being is sort of seeing yourself authentically. That can't be me.

0:20:20 Unknown Speaker #4

So you think you're two guys?

0:20:21 Unknown Speaker #2

No. I think I'm one guy in a mirror is a reflection. I'm pretty sure we've had this this misunderstanding multiple times in the past.

0:20:29 Unknown Speaker #1

How did you not see us? The person in the mirror is a kidnapped other version of you that's doing the exact opposite but in reverse.

0:20:35 Unknown Speaker #4

It's your evil, your shadow, your villain,

0:20:38 Unknown Speaker #1

and it's incredibly young in which I'm I've known about my whole life, you know, stuff. And

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you've known about young inism your whole life.

0:20:45 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But well, because, you you know,

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he's getting there. Are you a youngianist?

0:20:51 Unknown Speaker #1

I'm a youngianist. Yeah.

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Awesome.

0:20:55 Unknown Speaker #1

Well, yeah. You're the young you you Here's the youngest Here's the youngest young

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years. Oh. Young is young in.

0:21:04 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. But it's all the the what what Howard's saying is almost right, but he's a little wrong in a lot of ways.

0:21:11 Unknown Speaker #2

Guys, I think that this this I wish this is what I hoped we would have learned from starting this gym and starting all this. I I I I was hoping that we could sort of finally come to terms with who we are. And accept and accept who we are. You know? And that's a huge thing. And that's what I wanted to do this play because I thought that was the intention, was for me, sort of sort of learn my who I am and not feel so damn sad about myself all the time. Learn to have a little bit of self confidence, You know? And and the whole thing for me in starting a gym was to sort of work on myself and and and try to start feeling a little bit better about who I really am, And I think the first step to that is accepting the things about you that that maybe are a little unsavory or you think you're bad, which is the reason you guys sorta associate from your reflection. Wow. You're you're not happy with who you are as people, so you see who you really already say, well, that's not me.

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Protecting.

0:22:02 Unknown Speaker #2

Excuse me?

0:22:03 Unknown Speaker #4

Sounds like you're projecting.

0:22:04 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Because what about fun house mirrors? That's not really me.

0:22:08 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, this

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i just Stupid. No.

0:22:11 Unknown Speaker #3

It's too

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crazy. You're so stupid. No. Uh-oh.

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You know, that's gonna be the YouTube clip.

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You keep going.

0:22:18 Unknown Speaker #3

No. No. Listen. Listen. Listen.

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You guys look at yourself.

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Everybody loves you. But we have to listen really quick. Everybody listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to here.

0:22:25 Unknown Speaker #4

Listen here. Listen over there.

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Well, listen here.

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Okay. Well, listen over here.

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Listen to me as well.

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Because I either feel like

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maybe I wish I'd love to hear about, buddy. You have to really listen here.

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I feel like Howard

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uh-huh. I'm listening.

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--

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--

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you are right.

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Yeah. Okay?

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We have really not -- That's

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exactly what I

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was

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saying now.

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--

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giving you enough credit.

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Exactly what I've been saying out.

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And I think I'm missing out on some good stuff Howard to say.

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what I've been getting at.

0:22:45 Unknown Speaker #2

I think that's

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Yep. I like this. Well, you

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guys were getting out before I was.

0:22:49 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, that's interesting. You were always on top of it at some point.

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I

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appreciate you influenced me.

0:22:53 Unknown Speaker #2

Here, mean, here's a here's a fun little exercise. You know, we've spent the last six or so weeks really trying to to to better other people in the gym Right. And I want us to all sort of look at ourselves and describe ourselves how we see ourselves. Right? How about we do that? And and and this will really show how much progress we've made in the past six weeks sort of bettering ourselves to see how we see ourselves right now.

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This is

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a great idea.

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We don't even have to look in the mirror.

0:23:16 Unknown Speaker #4

Just self self vision is is as important as what the rest of

0:23:20 Unknown Speaker #2

the world should do. Exactly. So, Sam, we'll start we'll start with you. I want you to describe to the listeners and to each of us how you see yourself. Describe it in in as much detail as you'd like to go into.

0:23:31 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, I guess I would say buff ready paid taxes

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and lives

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in a home with a roof. Okay.

0:23:39 Unknown Speaker #1

Wow. Wow.

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Pretty spot on.

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Good for you.

0:23:42 Unknown Speaker #4

Thank you so much. Oh, miserable. Right.

0:23:46 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, hey, that's that. I like that.

0:23:48 Unknown Speaker #3

A place to work from? Yeah.

0:23:50 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. And that feels like the truest thing that any of us has has said in a long time. Sam's miserable and that's alright.

0:23:56 Unknown Speaker #4

It is. Yeah. It's gotta change soon but yeah.

0:24:00 Unknown Speaker #1

Alright. I'm so sad to hear that you're miserable. Because from my perspective, you've got nothing to be misrule rip misrule about. Israel?

0:24:13 Unknown Speaker #6

I mean, as I'm is really myself.

0:24:21 Unknown Speaker #4

Wow. I never realized that.

0:24:22 Unknown Speaker #1

I mean, look at you. You got you you got oh, it's a server for your head, but we're it's not that. Mhmm. Which is fine.

0:24:29 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. Just give me one thing that I have that I that should be good for me. Did you do

0:24:37 Unknown Speaker #1

have those mashed potatoes yesterday? Yeah. You had some mashed potatoes yesterday.

0:24:44 Unknown Speaker #4

Those were good. I didn't make them, but they were good.

0:24:46 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Weren't they? Yeah.

0:24:48 Unknown Speaker #2

Inching closer to vulnerability? Whatsoever are we, guys? We can't you got come on. Okay. I've got I've Yeah. Subscribe yourself, bro.

0:24:55 Unknown Speaker #3

Come on. I'm a human

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good. Nice.

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I'm a brother.

0:25:01 Unknown Speaker #2

Okay. No. You're not. Wait. No. You are. You are.

0:25:03 Unknown Speaker #3

You are. You are. I'm a friend. Alright. Wow. I'm a Patron.

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Okay.

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I'm my I'm

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i'm almost almost said he was happy.

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I will I'm healthy. No. I'm

0:25:30 Unknown Speaker #2

hungry?

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I'm hungry. Yeah. I'm a hungry hungry human.

0:25:37 Unknown Speaker #4

That's really great.

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That's great.

0:25:39 Unknown Speaker #1

And I would be too if someone ate my mashed potatoes yesterday.

0:25:42 Unknown Speaker #3

I I had those mashed potatoes yesterday, too. I'm so that's what I'm really grateful about it.

0:25:48 Unknown Speaker #1

I feel like

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we we all had mashed potatoes yesterday. And from the outside, It it may or from the inside, it may feel bad, but from the outside, we all ate mashed potatoes yesterday.

0:26:01 Unknown Speaker #1

With our friends, didn't we?

0:26:02 Unknown Speaker #4

That's good perspective.

0:26:03 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah.

0:26:04 Unknown Speaker #2

What are you guys so afraid of? I I This is just so vulnerable. Give me something real, Todd. Give me something real.

0:26:11 Unknown Speaker #1

I mean, I've learned so much from my friends already and I first wanna just thank YouTube for bringing that vulnerability to the table.

0:26:19 Unknown Speaker #4

I got something.

0:26:20 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Go ahead.

0:26:21 Unknown Speaker #4

That you're afraid of? We are all afraid of running out of gravy because these mashed potatoes were good, but not not dry.

0:26:28 Unknown Speaker #1

We'll probably have to cut this because this is really freaking at freaky. Yeah. And I feel like it or we'll put a warning above, like, very sensitive water. Yeah.

0:26:35 Unknown Speaker #3

The gravy shortage is freaks me out. Yeah.

0:26:38 Unknown Speaker #2

We we have to do a trigger warning on the episode because we discuss a gravy sharted.

0:26:42 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. We do. We do. We absolutely do. And I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna argue about it. It's -- Yeah.

0:26:49 Unknown Speaker #1

i'm putting my foot down. Mhmm. Folks, I hope you heard the trigger warning that we talked about a gravy shortage in this episode.

0:26:49 Unknown Speaker #5

--

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You got

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the supply shortage for everything has been bad.

0:27:00 Unknown Speaker #2

Okay. But the

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supply shortage for gravy

0:27:04 Unknown Speaker #3

most of the gravy is stuck on a ship in the Pacific, and it takes forever. And that to me, the gravy chain.

0:27:15 Unknown Speaker #2

The gravy chain?

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The gravy chain shortage is so scary to me.

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Go in. So rails on a gravy chain. No.

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Sherry. I I I I I I.

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Dear. Doo doo doo doo.

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Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

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And then

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on a ship ship. Alright. You will never see the gravy ever again ever again. You will never see the gravy ever. Braby.

0:27:50 Unknown Speaker #1

It's on my toast.

0:27:54 Unknown Speaker #3

Gravy. Oh,

0:28:01 Unknown Speaker #2

you guys will you guys will sing your favorite song.

0:28:04 Unknown Speaker #4

Hey, honey train. Howard, thank you. No. Thank you for getting us here.

0:28:08 Unknown Speaker #3

You got this great name. I can't go. Wow.

0:28:24 Unknown Speaker #2

Whoa. It's really it's just sad, guys. I feel like I

0:28:26 Unknown Speaker #4

know the gravy's sitting up with

0:28:28 Unknown Speaker #3

the hair on a shit. It's horrifying.

0:28:30 Unknown Speaker #2

No. Because see, like, the with the show and everything, and people sort of sending reviews of my performance that didn't

0:28:37 Unknown Speaker #2

text?

0:28:37 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:28:38 Unknown Speaker #2

that were mostly personal, not really about the tech or the content of the show. Which so

0:28:38 Unknown Speaker #5

--

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shame because the text and the content.

0:28:45 Unknown Speaker #2

I just feel like I've had a couple of, like, a couple of real come to Jesus moments.

0:28:49 Unknown Speaker #4

But what are those moments?

0:28:50 Unknown Speaker #1

Exactly. And that was the goal of the play is to reveal Howard the coward to Howard himself.

0:28:55 Unknown Speaker #2

So how

0:28:56 Unknown Speaker #1

have you come with Jesus?

0:28:58 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, the the fur first and foremost, I realized that being a coward is not such a bad thing. You know, humanity human

0:29:06 Unknown Speaker #1

beings Bureau nodding huge behind the camera there, Ben agrees.

0:29:09 Unknown Speaker #2

Human beings evolved, and and we have this fight or flight response. You know? And it's and it's fight or flight. There's two valid responses to every hardship. Okay? And we all know I'm not gonna fight. I'm never gonna find -- Right. -- I'm gonna run my little ass off.

0:29:24 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. Well, you bring up a good point because we spent most of our evolutionary life running from predator.

0:29:31 Unknown Speaker #1

It's true.

0:29:32 Unknown Speaker #3

And now in our modern day, we still get that feeling deep down But there are no predators

0:29:40 Unknown Speaker #4

like there

0:29:41 Unknown Speaker #3

used to be.

0:29:41 Unknown Speaker #1

Like And so that's where things like anxiety come from.

0:29:45 Unknown Speaker #3

Like,

0:29:48 Unknown Speaker #7

and and we can't get enough of this realization. We listen

0:29:53 Unknown Speaker #3

to podcast four or five a day that say the exact same thing about anxiety and it helps none. It still not doesn't work.

0:30:01 Unknown Speaker #1

It's well, you know, with

0:30:03 Unknown Speaker #3

the real picture anxiety, just have to know when it exists.

0:30:06 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, it's become very helpful for me to interrupt people at a party to tell them I heard on the podcast. Which is helpful. But yeah. Here's what it was interesting to me. Anxiety, wrong. And I never thought of it that way.

0:30:18 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. Wait. Here's what's cold week. It's so true. Wrong.

0:30:24 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, we anxiety isn't.

0:30:25 Unknown Speaker #3

We definitely all Now

0:30:27 Unknown Speaker #4

if you really think about it, there is an anxiety. It's just you.

0:30:30 Unknown Speaker #1

It's so Buddhist. It is so Buddhist.

0:30:32 Unknown Speaker #3

It is so Buddhist. We've all written books on anxiety in the last week. And we're selling them today.

0:30:37 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes.

0:30:37 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. Mine is called from caveman to modern day, man. And it's all about The fight or flight make a mess about our mind.

0:30:47 Unknown Speaker #1

It's really sad.

0:30:48 Unknown Speaker #4

Which what Howard started talking about.

0:30:51 Unknown Speaker #3

That's right. Sorry.

0:30:52 Unknown Speaker #2

Sorry. Sorry. No. It's okay. You know, it got

0:30:54 Unknown Speaker #1

hard to get in the fight. Terms of the fact that flight is okay.

0:30:57 Unknown Speaker #2

Flight flight is okay. Because because honestly, it's all about survival. Right? And some people are really good at sort of confronting challenges head on. Me, I'm the kind of person who needs to sort of fall back

0:31:09 Unknown Speaker #2

uh-huh.

0:31:09 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:31:10 Unknown Speaker #2

find cover and and and sort of regroup and figure out what my next step is gonna be, and that's okay.

0:31:15 Unknown Speaker #4

But isn't there an even better way to live

0:31:18 Unknown Speaker #1

or the only That's fascinating.

0:31:19 Unknown Speaker #4

That's exactly what I'm saying is that Why are we always fighting and fighting? What if we were just to sit still and tell someone to fuck off?

0:31:30 Unknown Speaker #1

Fight or flight or fuck off.

0:31:33 Unknown Speaker #4

You know what I mean?

0:31:34 Unknown Speaker #1

It's a third f.

0:31:34 Unknown Speaker #4

What about staying? What about not uprooting yourself? And not fighting.

0:31:40 Unknown Speaker #1

And this is coming from a group of people who have apprilled themselves every time something has gone

0:31:44 Unknown Speaker #2

a little bit wrong over

0:31:46 Unknown Speaker #1

and over again. And thought about it and flown as we've done all three.

0:31:50 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. We fly.

0:31:52 Unknown Speaker #4

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, as you can tell, We're teachers. We haven't taught in years.

0:31:58 Unknown Speaker #1

Well, yeah. It's true. We're taught in teaching. We've been flying away.

0:32:01 Unknown Speaker #3

From teaching.

0:32:02 Unknown Speaker #1

Well and this we do cover some of this in my books and in the art of toilet maintenance which is kind of all about how I learned about Zen through fixing the issues I had with my own toilet. Right. So chapter one is the float. Right. And it's about fixing the float and chain getting caught every time I pull the trigger on the toilet.

0:32:22 Unknown Speaker #3

Right. I

0:32:23 Unknown Speaker #1

mean, it's like a gun toilet.

0:32:24 Unknown Speaker #4

Which is fucking sick, by the way.

0:32:28 Unknown Speaker #1

Is it awesome?

0:32:29 Unknown Speaker #4

There's nothing better than when you take a shit that you fire it away, and there is gunpowder involved. Right?

0:32:35 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, yeah. It's a whole a classic gun and oh, I got a note for you, Hillary. You're not taking my gun toilet away.

0:32:42 Unknown Speaker #3

No. Not yet.

0:32:42 Unknown Speaker #1

Alright, Hill.

0:32:44 Unknown Speaker #3

Hell, they're what? They're coming for our toilets.

0:32:47 Unknown Speaker #1

You're coming?

0:32:48 Unknown Speaker #3

They're coming for our toilets.

0:32:50 Unknown Speaker #4

Well and I just thought your Buddhist and book was so beautiful. Then it really inspired me to write mine

0:32:56 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:32:56 Unknown Speaker #2

right.

0:32:56 Unknown Speaker #4

which is all about the courage to love your toilet.

0:33:01 Unknown Speaker #4

You know? Because I read them.

0:33:01 Unknown Speaker #3

Wow.

0:33:03 Unknown Speaker #2

I've read them.

0:33:03 Unknown Speaker #3

I've read them.

0:33:04 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. No. Of course, you have. I read your book.

0:33:05 Unknown Speaker #1

I'm remembering now.

0:33:06 Unknown Speaker #4

You probably read it on my toilet.

0:33:08 Unknown Speaker #1

That's exactly where it was.

0:33:10 Unknown Speaker #4

where I wrote it. I wrote it all on the porcelain there, and that's

0:33:10 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. That's

0:33:15 Unknown Speaker #3

where it is. Yours is the perfect bathroom reader because it's written on the toilet.

0:33:19 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, it's

0:33:20 Unknown Speaker #2

read while you're on the pot. It is. Yes.

0:33:20 Unknown Speaker #3

tough to

0:33:22 Unknown Speaker #3

But you just have to, like, bend over super far.

0:33:25 Unknown Speaker #3

It's actually really kind of like a squatty potty. The more you try to read

0:33:25 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah.

0:33:29 Unknown Speaker #4

sometimes I squat so hard, I'll realize I'm sitting upright again.

0:33:33 Unknown Speaker #3

You you'll do a front flip on the toilet going the whole time of course.

0:33:38 Unknown Speaker #4

Of course. That's why my bathroom looks like it's been divided in half. It looks like I'm splitting it with somebody Really? That's just right. We feces and beepies flying around when we

0:33:55 Unknown Speaker #3

just go toilet is a space is has really caught up.

0:33:59 Unknown Speaker #4

What shark tank? They said no. They said no. But I think I

0:34:03 Unknown Speaker #3

early on in the process. Very good to the shark.

0:34:06 Unknown Speaker #4

As soon as I pulled my pants down, they said absolutely not. But I thought at least Cuban would be interested.

0:34:12 Unknown Speaker #1

Fuckers.

0:34:13 Unknown Speaker #1

fuckers. It's my friend, those fuckers rejected, and they're gonna hear about it for me. And what I mean by that is I go door to door to their houses very late at night. And I tell them someone in their family is sick.

0:34:13 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. It's

0:34:25 Unknown Speaker #4

That's so smart. Now I I really think you should be pitching that to them as a business

0:34:30 Unknown Speaker #1

oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? Oh, yeah. Thank you. I will do that.

0:34:35 Unknown Speaker #3

So so sharks. You've all dealt with this. A masked man comes to your house and tells you a family member's sick. What you wanna do that?

0:34:44 Unknown Speaker #4

Because Charks I know you've all done with this.

0:34:47 Unknown Speaker #2

That's me now.

0:34:49 Unknown Speaker #1

That's weird. Oh, I know. But I am certain that three of you and someone that looks like you, ma'am, have dealt with this.

0:34:59 Unknown Speaker #2

You know, guys, get Can I can I be can I be honest for a second?

0:35:02 Unknown Speaker #4

Of course. I've been telling the truth.

0:35:04 Unknown Speaker #1

Since episode one, I've been honest. And I am happy you're finally joining us here now.

0:35:09 Unknown Speaker #2

I feel like it was a bad idea for us to take over this gym.

0:35:13 Unknown Speaker #2

Because the more I

0:35:13 Unknown Speaker #4

What?

0:35:14 Unknown Speaker #3

think about it, the more I think maybe as many gains as we have.

0:35:17 Unknown Speaker #2

So, of

0:35:18 Unknown Speaker #3

course, you think

0:35:18 Unknown Speaker #1

it's better.

0:35:19 Unknown Speaker #2

I'm starting to think none of us have made a single game. We sorta got into this thing trying to be like, you know, better ourselves and everything. And I'm seeing now we're kinda just on the same freaking loop we've been on every single year for the rest for our entire life.

0:35:32 Unknown Speaker #4

I don't wanna alarm anybody, and this sounds fucking nuts. But Howard is making a lot of sense today.

0:35:39 Unknown Speaker #1

I was gonna say executive that's really interesting. I say, almost the same thing as you.

0:35:39 Unknown Speaker #2

Thank you.

0:35:43 Unknown Speaker #4

Thank you, Todd.

0:35:44 Unknown Speaker #3

So you're telling me this thirteen pounds of water weight because of a creatine overdose is not worth it.

0:35:50 Unknown Speaker #2

I think It's bad. It's not gonna be good for you. And, I mean, look around at everybody who started at the gym when we started the gym. How many people do you look at today and think, oh, wow. They're doing better than they they were doing six weeks ago.

0:36:02 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. Most people are looking pretty sick.

0:36:05 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, sick. Wow.

0:36:08 Unknown Speaker #1

Well, here's the issue, Howard. If I'm wrong about this, which I'm not going to admit that I am.

0:36:15 Unknown Speaker #4

Of course.

0:36:16 Unknown Speaker #1

Because I thought this was a good idea. Then what else have I been wrong about that I thought was a good idea, my career? My marriage, not talking to my kids. Yeah. What what Watching cranked too high voltage every night of my life. To fall asleep.

0:36:34 Unknown Speaker #4

But it knocks you right out.

0:36:37 Unknown Speaker #1

It sure does. It sure does.

0:36:40 Unknown Speaker #4

So I guess not.

0:36:41 Unknown Speaker #1

I mean, Statham's dolce voice, I mean, it gets me. So I I can't admit that I was wrong about this. Yeah. What I would rather do is do this harder and more to prove that it was right. Yeah.

0:36:54 Unknown Speaker #3

It's too late in our lives.

0:36:55 Unknown Speaker #4

What if we took a break and we just felt better after that?

0:36:59 Unknown Speaker #3

I think that's what we should do. Take five minutes, go stare at a wall, walk right back here, and we're better now. Then we're better.

0:37:09 Unknown Speaker #2

That sounds good. Maybe we should let's all go sorta take a cent a centering

0:37:12 Unknown Speaker #1

five minutes. A five minute meditation.

0:37:13 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. Okay.

0:37:16 Unknown Speaker #1

Alright. Okay. Okay.

0:37:18 Unknown Speaker #4

Okay. I'll probably do some push ups.

0:37:20 Unknown Speaker #1

If I'm meditating, I'll be working out.

0:37:21 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. If I could get some calf raises in, But I'll count them and think hard about them.

0:37:27 Unknown Speaker #4

That's what meditation good meditation is, mostly counting and thinking hard.

0:37:31 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the original meditator was the owl from the the lollipop commercial.

0:37:36 Unknown Speaker #3

That's right. Absolutely.

0:37:36 Unknown Speaker #2

That's right.

0:37:37 Unknown Speaker #4

That's right.

0:37:38 Unknown Speaker #3

Have you been to his meditation studio? Yeah.

0:37:41 Unknown Speaker #2

How many times?

0:37:42 Unknown Speaker #4

I can't believe you got to climb a tree to get up there.

0:37:45 Unknown Speaker #3

It's so dangerous. It's all in black and white.

0:37:50 Unknown Speaker #1

That's the hardest part.

0:37:51 Unknown Speaker #4

And single lines?

0:37:53 Unknown Speaker #1

It is so painful to step to make the color free two dimensional.

0:37:56 Unknown Speaker #3

Oh my god. To drain all color from you? It is so hard.

0:38:02 Unknown Speaker #1

But yeah, I've taken that class. There's one or two. Two.

0:38:09 Unknown Speaker #2

Maybe Three three. Good times. I think we did something wrong.

0:38:09 Unknown Speaker #1

Three times.

0:38:16 Unknown Speaker #3

No. Maybe chump. Maybe chump. Alright. Well,

0:38:22 Unknown Speaker #1

let's take a little meditation break. You're so right, Howard. Yeah.

0:38:28 Unknown Speaker #2

That was really good for me, you guys. I don't know if it was good for you guys. I

0:38:32 Unknown Speaker #4

i feel a lot better, much more centered.

0:38:35 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. I Yeah. I'm feeling really good. I feel clear headed. I don't know how you guys feel.

0:38:41 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. I I took three deep breaths and started crying.

0:38:46 Unknown Speaker #4

Really?

0:38:47 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. When

0:38:48 Unknown Speaker #4

did you learn anything?

0:38:49 Unknown Speaker #3

Just even taking well, somebody was playing

0:38:52 Unknown Speaker #3

in yoga classes. Mhmm. And I You know that thing? I don't know if

0:38:52 Unknown Speaker #2

that little piano that they play

0:39:01 Unknown Speaker #4

the piano's little or if they're just playing it quietly.

0:39:07 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. So in most yoga classes, I've taken somebody's quietly playing a regular sized piano in the morning. And just the slowing down. Mhmm. I think that's indicative. You just take three breaths

0:39:26 Unknown Speaker #4

yeah. Sometimes I realize I I don't I don't realize until I take the breaths how much I am holding my breath.

0:39:32 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. Yeah.

0:39:33 Unknown Speaker #4

Right. We should really be really going in and out all day long.

0:39:37 Unknown Speaker #1

So I have to ask three breaths in crying. Uh-huh. Are there any thoughts coming up when you're doing that? And I'll vamp all your figuring out your headphones. Are there any emotions coming up while you're doing that, you know what it or is it just like an overwhelming cry like the type that you would have from a moving film that you watch? Because film can move you to cry. That's okay.

0:40:01 Unknown Speaker #3

Oh, film is my favorite.

0:40:03 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, when Iron Man died in Avengers, that was a mess. Absolutely.

0:40:07 Unknown Speaker #1

i'm not afraid to admit

0:40:07 Unknown Speaker #4

And

0:40:08 Unknown Speaker #3

that. Yes. Of course.

0:40:11 Unknown Speaker #4

When Vin diesel falls down in the tooth fairy, I was lost.

0:40:15 Unknown Speaker #1

Well, you were inconsolable for about a month.

0:40:17 Unknown Speaker #4

Absolutely. I lost all my

0:40:18 Unknown Speaker #3

teeth. Absolutely. When Donnie Darko becomes the rabbit.

0:40:23 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh my god.

0:40:25 Unknown Speaker #4

So intense.

0:40:26 Unknown Speaker #1

That was a confused cry for me. I'll say that.

0:40:29 Unknown Speaker #3

I was crying, but it had a question mark at the end. I think it was that I've just been going and going and going and not stopping to take in mental inventory. Wow.

0:40:47 Unknown Speaker #2

Did you do a mental inventory while you were

0:40:49 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:40:50 Unknown Speaker #2

yes. -- meditating?

0:40:51 Unknown Speaker #3

Well, I've started by being like, do I have enough vitamin b on the shelf? And I'm like, no, this is an actual inventory, but just mentally.

0:41:00 Unknown Speaker #4

Up self self.

0:41:02 Unknown Speaker #3

So I kinda turned inside and and thought like, what is a mental inventory? And I was confused for a few minutes. I don't know what that is. And so I moved on. Good.

0:41:16 Unknown Speaker #1

Good.

0:41:17 Unknown Speaker #3

But I just overall, I was thinking that I've made a mistake. Really? I've made a mistake. I've made a mistake.

0:41:29 Unknown Speaker #2

In the moment or a sort of bigger

0:41:31 Unknown Speaker #3

no. I've really lost myself at this smoothie bar. Mhmm. I've I don't know who I am anymore. I am the smoothie bar. Right. You know what I mean? There's no

0:41:47 Unknown Speaker #1

right. You're you're defined by what happens with the smoothie box.

0:41:50 Unknown Speaker #3

Exactly.

0:41:51 Unknown Speaker #1

You have no trust in in your own humanity. And so if the things you sell become illegal because you're making people so sick that they're driving on melatonin and crashing and falling asleep, then that makes you bad.

0:42:02 Unknown Speaker #3

Well, and and I was everything was great when I was not selling too much melatonin. When I wasn't saying let's fully fast forever, when it was just slight, you know, bullshit.

0:42:16 Unknown Speaker #4

simple. It's a smoothie bar.

0:42:16 Unknown Speaker #2

Mhmm. It's

0:42:18 Unknown Speaker #3

You left the piece of protein. Yeah. Like, Stuff like that. Yeah. I but then when it started going bad and people were boycotting, they were carrying the signs outside. Bill Bill Cravies crazy.

0:42:31 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, isn't that what always

0:42:32 Unknown Speaker #1

happens to us?

0:42:34 Unknown Speaker #4

We start out how

0:42:35 Unknown Speaker #3

I know.

0:42:35 Unknown Speaker #1

they thought of that. Right?

0:42:36 Unknown Speaker #4

We start out so right. So correct with such great reason to do what we're doing. And then we take it too far And all of a sudden, we're essentially a pharmacy doing drugs and smoothies over the counter.

0:42:51 Unknown Speaker #3

So what I've decided is to introduce a new product. Really?

0:42:58 Unknown Speaker #4

Make it a little bit more complicated, sir. I was

0:43:00 Unknown Speaker #3

expecting, but I just need to get back up on top.

0:43:05 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah.

0:43:06 Unknown Speaker #3

And then I then -- You're

0:43:08 Unknown Speaker #1

a winner.

0:43:09 Unknown Speaker #3

then I'll figure it out.

0:43:09 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:43:10 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah.

0:43:11 Unknown Speaker #3

Then I'll slow down.

0:43:13 Unknown Speaker #4

It's tough to figure it out in the middle of a loss. Get yourself a win.

0:43:16 Unknown Speaker #3

I've gotta be back up on top, and then I'll figure it out.

0:43:20 Unknown Speaker #4

Right.

0:43:21 Unknown Speaker #1

And what, you know, do you have a new product, or can we help you with this?

0:43:24 Unknown Speaker #3

I am at a loss. That's what I spent a majority -- Right.

0:43:28 Unknown Speaker #3

in meditation sort of thinking about.

0:43:28 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:43:30 Unknown Speaker #1

I mean, what do people love? Sugary sodas. Uh-huh. Vast food.

0:43:36 Unknown Speaker #1

True crime. True crime.

0:43:36 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes.

0:43:40 Unknown Speaker #2

Electric vehicles.

0:43:41 Unknown Speaker #3

Dating shows.

0:43:42 Unknown Speaker #4

Little hot colored pens?

0:43:45 Unknown Speaker #1

Electric vehicles.

0:43:45 Unknown Speaker #2

Yes.

0:43:46 Unknown Speaker #3

The people love these EVs, these EV.

0:43:49 Unknown Speaker #1

I guess you're right. Okay. Sorry, Howard.

0:43:51 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes. Okay. So electric vehicles.

0:43:53 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh, did someone say ball point pens?

0:43:56 Unknown Speaker #3

Ball point pens.

0:43:57 Unknown Speaker #1

Those are great.

0:43:58 Unknown Speaker #3

Those are great. Okay. EV Well,

0:44:05 Unknown Speaker #4

so it sounds like you're not quite sure yet, and that's okay.

0:44:09 Unknown Speaker #3

No. It's not.

0:44:10 Unknown Speaker #2

But Bill, though, maybe we start here. What is it that you wanna achieve with that new product? Big. You wanna this new product? Idiot. No. Bill, come down. Yay.

0:44:19 Unknown Speaker #3

Bill, calm down.

0:44:20 Unknown Speaker #2

You're fine.

0:44:21 Unknown Speaker #1

Do not police how Bill feels his emotions.

0:44:24 Unknown Speaker #2

Don't push me.

0:44:24 Unknown Speaker #1

Go screaming at that wall.

0:44:26 Unknown Speaker #3

Don't Why?

0:44:28 Unknown Speaker #4

Okay. Get it out, Bill. Get it out, Bill. Get it out. Maybe to there. Maybe the idea's in there.

0:44:33 Unknown Speaker #3

B b b. E b b b.

0:44:36 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Good letters. It's not

0:44:37 Unknown Speaker #4

a circle. Toilet.

0:44:41 Unknown Speaker #3

Doilots, babe. Love Island.

0:44:47 Unknown Speaker #2

Love Island.

0:44:54 Unknown Speaker #4

This is good. This is good.

0:44:56 Unknown Speaker #1

Kinda turned it

0:44:57 Unknown Speaker #2

into chimpanzee here, Bill.

0:44:58 Unknown Speaker #4

You've been towards something.

0:45:00 Unknown Speaker #3

Oh, he's He's noticing.

0:45:02 Unknown Speaker #1

How are we gonna yeah. We can do this.

0:45:05 Unknown Speaker #3

Leaking. Shit. I got

0:45:09 Unknown Speaker #4

wait a second. Flingers. Flingers. You've had all kinds of smoothies, but you haven't had any snacks. What about some chicken fingers or potato flingers or -- Okay.

0:45:24 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:45:24 Unknown Speaker #2

potato flinging freaking. I think it's wait

0:45:27 Unknown Speaker #1

a second.

0:45:29 Unknown Speaker #3

Potato flingers. Potato flingers?

0:45:32 Unknown Speaker #2

I mean, honestly, this I'm not totally opposed to this idea. Having some kind of, like, sort of a food option to compete with edible arrangements -- Yes.

0:45:43 Unknown Speaker #3

Edible eats.

0:45:44 Unknown Speaker #3

edible eats. Like That's where people are going. Yes.

0:45:44 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:45:48 Unknown Speaker #4

And I heard

0:45:49 Unknown Speaker #3

that's where they're going when they go up the stairs.

0:45:51 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. So potato flinger's just to be clear. It's like a a fingerling potato that you throw at some time.

0:45:59 Unknown Speaker #4

I'm trying to help Bill out here. I don't know.

0:46:01 Unknown Speaker #1

Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just make things up and Bill has to figure out what

0:46:05 Unknown Speaker #2

they are.

0:46:07 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. So it's a throwable potato, finger. Okay. Okay.

0:46:13 Unknown Speaker #4

I'm just trying to make something out of all your screaming.

0:46:16 Unknown Speaker #4

Gotta be something.

0:46:16 Unknown Speaker #1

I just yeah.

0:46:17 Unknown Speaker #1

I'm with Sam. I couldn't handle where you were emotionally. So I'm just trying to fix it as soon as possible so we can move

0:46:23 Unknown Speaker #3

up What about a cologne smoothie? Okay.

0:46:27 Unknown Speaker #4

Honestly, that might be a huge hit in our

0:46:29 Unknown Speaker #1

genius. Cologne. Chania. Polo smooth. So bad after the gym.

0:46:34 Unknown Speaker #3

Polo sport, the smooth.

0:46:36 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, I never thought of this. I'm always putting one or two spritzes of cologne on the outside of my body. What about scenting yourself

0:46:44 Unknown Speaker #3

from the inside? Inside.

0:46:46 Unknown Speaker #4

So so much cologne that you smell from it.

0:46:46 Unknown Speaker #1

Okay.

0:46:50 Unknown Speaker #3

I had the form to carry the wand. Okay? That's it.

0:46:53 Unknown Speaker #4

Yes. And then, yes.

0:46:55 Unknown Speaker #3

And then you're like, god. And then, yes. Yes.

0:47:01 Unknown Speaker #4

Bill, I'll tell you I'll be your first customer. I will take a large Dracar noir -- Jabbins. -- please. Okay. I'll

0:47:10 Unknown Speaker #1

take a Kenneth cole reaction.

0:47:13 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes. Kenneth cole reaction. Amanda. Can

0:47:18 Unknown Speaker #1

think of a fruit on my own. Kenneth co reaction and

0:47:22 Unknown Speaker #2

while Todd's taking, I'll take a Michael Jordan cologne and peanut butter Is

0:47:26 Unknown Speaker #3

that what his was called Michael Jordan Piloneaux.

0:47:28 Unknown Speaker #2

It was.

0:47:30 Unknown Speaker #4

It might have been called It could

0:47:31 Unknown Speaker #2

have been called twenty three also. I'm not sure.

0:47:33 Unknown Speaker #3

Twenty three and what? Peanut butter. Peanut butter. Okay. Good. This is working.

0:47:39 Unknown Speaker #1

Okay. Well, back to my chemical reaction in a fruit.

0:47:43 Unknown Speaker #2

Why don't you

0:47:44 Unknown Speaker #3

try another cologne? And then maybe

0:47:46 Unknown Speaker #1

to get me into it. Okay. Cool. I guess I'll do

0:47:51 Unknown Speaker #4

uh-oh. Two cologne.

0:47:53 Unknown Speaker #1

I'll do the the John Lovett's.

0:48:00 Unknown Speaker #4

Yep. Technically, there's a scent. I don't know that it's a cologne.

0:48:04 Unknown Speaker #3

Right. So you want John Lovett's scent?

0:48:06 Unknown Speaker #1

I want Lovett's? I'll do the Lovett's rat race and then back around to it's easily think good colognes, but fruit.

0:48:17 Unknown Speaker #4

Findapple maybe.

0:48:18 Unknown Speaker #1

I can think of a fruit on

0:48:20 Unknown Speaker #4

Right. Right.

0:48:20 Unknown Speaker #3

my own.

0:48:21 Unknown Speaker #1

Just put me down for steak and then Okay. I'll do Lovett's and Steak smoothie.

0:48:26 Unknown Speaker #3

Okay. Lovett's rat raising steak. Okay. Good.

0:48:32 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes.

0:48:33 Unknown Speaker #3

Good. Okay. I feel better now. I feel like this is an idea that can be get me back on top so then I can be more mindful.

0:48:39 Unknown Speaker #2

And and it feels like this is, like, combining things people love at the gym. So I feel like there's very little opportunity for this to fail.

0:48:47 Unknown Speaker #4

And isn't it true that you don't always need the perfect thing. You just need a little bit of purpose. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So I'm excited that you have your purpose. Yeah. And I think if we can all just have a purpose, that'll be

0:48:58 Unknown Speaker #1

yes. Do you feel better, Bill?

0:48:59 Unknown Speaker #3

I feel so much better. I feel like this idea I can push.

0:49:02 Unknown Speaker #1

Good. Good. Well, I was really struggling with just your freak out in your experience there and I just could

0:49:09 Unknown Speaker #4

i could not notice that.

0:49:10 Unknown Speaker #1

I could not handle it. Thank

0:49:11 Unknown Speaker #4

you very much.

0:49:12 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. So I'm glad you feel better.

0:49:13 Unknown Speaker #2

And I I in my five minutes, I had a I sort of had a similar experience to you where I sort of stepped away, and I I looked into the sort of void and thought about what was going on. And I realized that for the last six weeks, I've been trying to hide. Aw. I've been trying to hide. And that and that hiding, it honestly It it it it it's followed me my whole life. I've never wanted to be in the spotlight. I've shunned my family name. I've tried to sort of separate myself from everything that makes me sort of interesting and unique because I'm afraid of people seeing me. It was the same thing when I decided to go into the terrarium. I said that was about sort of people witnessing it, but it was off on corner. Nobody really went in there.

0:49:53 Unknown Speaker #2

I ended up having more animals watching me than people. It was just not an opportunity for me to really put myself out there because I was afraid of the reaction. And now I've received the worst reaction a human being could possibly ever have to something that put into out into the world.

0:49:53 Unknown Speaker #3

Right.

0:50:07 Unknown Speaker #4

Bad reviews.

0:50:07 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. So there is no

0:50:09 Unknown Speaker #1

trust me. It's terrible.

0:50:10 Unknown Speaker #2

There's no way that anything could ever get worse than that. So what I've decided is in the in this five minute break, in this five minute meditation, I realized that I need to put myself front and center. I need to stop hiding in the corner. I need to stop hiding behind my own insecurities and I need to not give myself the opportunity to flight.

0:50:31 Unknown Speaker #1

Wow. Yeah.

0:50:32 Unknown Speaker #4

You're gonna stay and you're gonna fight.

0:50:34 Unknown Speaker #3

Your fear.

0:50:34 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. And so what I have decided -- k.

0:50:38 Unknown Speaker #2

is that I am now I'm going to sell be the first person you see when when you walk into the gym. And I'm gonna be the last person you see when you leave, and I'm gonna sort of give use myself up.

0:50:38 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:50:49 Unknown Speaker #3

So you're not gonna do anything and just be a greeter?

0:50:52 Unknown Speaker #2

Yes. Yes. The hardest job that one could ever have. The most vulnerable thing one could ever do is be is be the poster boy for an organization. Yeah. And if I'm the thing that people see the first, the second that they walk into the door in this gym, they get an they I can't hide.

0:51:10 Unknown Speaker #4

This is a great idea for you, Howard. This is a really great idea. I mean, you are gonna take a shower. You're gonna lose a little bit of Burger weight? Yeah.

0:51:17 Unknown Speaker #2

Well, I'm gonna try it. Right. Yeah. I'll do a little bit. And I'm also gonna wear

0:51:21 Unknown Speaker #3

the way the burger has put on you by feeding you

0:51:25 Unknown Speaker #3

the most health unhealthy stuff in the terrarium.

0:51:25 Unknown Speaker #2

yes.

0:51:25 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:51:27 Unknown Speaker #2

And I am going to wear the stringiest the stringiest tank top. I'm gonna wear a stringy. Yeah. Stringy. So we got any strap tape.

0:51:37 Unknown Speaker #3

So you're wearing a stringy bikini. Age the front.

0:51:40 Unknown Speaker #2

Yes. In Angel hair, top. And and and short the shortest gym shorts that I could find, I'm not gonna give my

0:51:48 Unknown Speaker #3

it's a good job, Howard.

0:51:49 Unknown Speaker #4

have a job over the meditation? So when

0:51:49 Unknown Speaker #2

Do you

0:51:51 Unknown Speaker #3

we've you pretty much nude up by the entrance?

0:51:54 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. Oh? Okay. Yeah. And I'm gonna be confident about my body because it doesn't matter. The content

0:52:00 Unknown Speaker #4

has been.

0:52:00 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. Doesn't matter that I that I don't look the way that Channing Tatum looked in

0:52:07 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:52:08 Unknown Speaker #4

not close.

0:52:09 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:52:09 Unknown Speaker #2

any of his movies. Or Zach Efron looks when he takes off his shirt

0:52:13 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:52:13 Unknown Speaker #4

and -- Yeah.

0:52:13 Unknown Speaker #2

there's water springing up.

0:52:15 Unknown Speaker #1

Well, you know between and the thing is, It's okay that you don't look that way it makes sense. That storefront looks that way because between takes he does fifty push ups.

0:52:24 Unknown Speaker #1

When you were shooting stuff between takes you would eat fifty nuggets?

0:52:24 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah yeah.

0:52:27 Unknown Speaker #2

Yes.

0:52:28 Unknown Speaker #1

And so it's just different.

0:52:29 Unknown Speaker #4

It would matter if we had to compare you to an actor, I would probably say, I don't know. Ben Stiller at the end of Dodge Paul.

0:52:38 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. Yeah.

0:52:39 Unknown Speaker #3

Yeah. Where

0:52:39 Unknown Speaker #4

he's sitting in his house, he's depressed.

0:52:41 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Yeah.

0:52:42 Unknown Speaker #2

You

0:52:42 Unknown Speaker #1

know? Back when you could put people in fat suits.

0:52:46 Unknown Speaker #3

Oh my god. We're saving ours for when they come around. Yes.

0:52:51 Unknown Speaker #1

You have the culture

0:52:52 Unknown Speaker #3

culture come back. Yeah. Just like trends, offensive things come back around.

0:52:57 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes. Absolutely. And It's not offensive. It's just that you don't trust anyone other than hot celebrities to play any character. And we do mean hot in the way that Hollywood people hot. Yeah. And so they have to be in a f s fat suit because how on earth could anybody who is not twenty pounds underway play a role.

0:53:18 Unknown Speaker #2

Exactly. Well, because because people who don't have perfect bodies aren't talented. That's the way that Hollywood has sort of conditioned us to think because I

0:53:26 Unknown Speaker #1

think of pavarotti. That guy would have been so famous if he could have just turned down a little bit here.

0:53:31 Unknown Speaker #4

And think about how hard acting is. You stand there, and you say lines that other people write. I mean, it's a hard job.

0:53:40 Unknown Speaker #3

It's so hard.

0:53:40 Unknown Speaker #1

He has

0:53:41 Unknown Speaker #4

to look a certain way.

0:53:42 Unknown Speaker #1

You have to be able to be mean to people and not care. Yeah. You could be mean to anybody and not care.

0:53:48 Unknown Speaker #4

You have to know how to be late every time, you have to know how to be picky.

0:53:53 Unknown Speaker #4

You have to know how to be late.

0:53:53 Unknown Speaker #6

Oh, yeah.

0:53:56 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes. You have to have a very strict diet that that makes you unable to eat anything.

0:54:03 Unknown Speaker #1

Uh-huh. And then you're rude because of it.

0:54:04 Unknown Speaker #3

And you're allergic to everything. You're allergic to everything.

0:54:09 Unknown Speaker #4

That was actually one of the reasons I couldn't become an actor is I wasn't allergic to enough stuff.

0:54:13 Unknown Speaker #1

That's right. That was all your because you were almost Kaston, was it boy meets world?

0:54:18 Unknown Speaker #4

Yes. Almost. That was almost mister Finney.

0:54:20 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes. That's right. Almost.

0:54:22 Unknown Speaker #3

Well, the guy that played the way that would have changed your life.

0:54:25 Unknown Speaker #4

Apparently, I was the opposite of him. He sort of gives you comfort as an older man. Apparently, I

0:54:29 Unknown Speaker #3

was You are mister Meany.

0:54:30 Unknown Speaker #4

I was mister Mimi the most unsettling person they ever saw. Wow.

0:54:34 Unknown Speaker #3

So they were gonna change it to mister Mimi.

0:54:36 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. They were. And they

0:54:37 Unknown Speaker #3

went with the and it was initially mister Mimi.

0:54:39 Unknown Speaker #4

Probably the right choice to go with Fini. Yeah. It's funny.

0:54:43 Unknown Speaker #1

Fini's funny. It's funny.

0:54:44 Unknown Speaker #3

Keep funny.

0:54:45 Unknown Speaker #1

Howard, I'm really appreciating. Because what earlier when you said you were gonna do flight instead of fright, or fight and fright's the other one. That's what I do. I was like

0:54:54 Unknown Speaker #5

--

0:54:54 Unknown Speaker #1

fright or flight.

0:54:54 Unknown Speaker #4

frighter flight.

0:54:55 Unknown Speaker #1

For me, it's fright. But Howard, I was encouraging you because it's what you said you wanted, but I was judging you. I like that you're saying fight. Because now the judgment is gone, I love fibers.

0:54:55 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah.

0:55:06 Unknown Speaker #2

And I and I think what this is all about for me is, like, understanding that, like, both things are okay. It's okay. It's okay to run when you're scared, but it's also okay to sort of accept accept the moment and stay stand and and fight. And I'm gonna fight here. You know? I'm gonna stand out front, and I'm gonna allow people to see me for the first time my whole life.

0:55:26 Unknown Speaker #4

Well, I gotta say I'm really moved by how open you guys have been with your meditation share.

0:55:32 Unknown Speaker #2

Thank you.

0:55:32 Unknown Speaker #3

And Thank you.

0:55:33 Unknown Speaker #4

I think going and staring at the wall for five minutes has opened my mind up just as much.

0:55:39 Unknown Speaker #3

Wow. That's great. Well

0:55:41 Unknown Speaker #4

and I have really realized that math is not that important at the gym. Really?

0:55:49 Unknown Speaker #1

Because that was

0:55:50 Unknown Speaker #4

i was hiding behind the numbers. I was telling everybody how many times you had to lift and how many times you had to do this. You know what I was hiding from? Doing a god dang lift myself.

0:56:02 Unknown Speaker #1

Wow.

0:56:03 Unknown Speaker #4

I've been eating nothing except for chips and waters doing no workouts, nothing but chips. And I've gained fifteen pounds trying to help everyone else with their math. You know what my new quote is? Just do it.

0:56:22 Unknown Speaker #1

Wow. Just do it. Oh.

0:56:25 Unknown Speaker #4

just go in there. I feel like I

0:56:25 Unknown Speaker #2

I love

0:56:28 Unknown Speaker #3

heard that before somewhere.

0:56:31 Unknown Speaker #1

Just do it.

0:56:32 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. I think I just said it three times. Maybe it was the first time.

0:56:34 Unknown Speaker #2

I don't be I don't know. I saw you. You were sitting over you were sitting over there in the locker room in front of that open locker that had some Nike memorabilia hanging in it you're sure you're sure you didn't see

0:56:47 Unknown Speaker #4

this comes from my meditation.

0:56:49 Unknown Speaker #1

He said just do it. He didn't say check mark.

0:56:52 Unknown Speaker #3

Swoosh. Right.

0:56:54 Unknown Speaker #4

Swoosh. No. You just do it. You don't worry about thinking ahead forever. Five push ups day, ten times day. I don't know how to even do that.

0:57:05 Unknown Speaker #2

I don't

0:57:05 Unknown Speaker #4

know if you ever noticed, but I would trail off before the answer ever came. I couldn't do the goddamn math. I was just making you think I was smart.

0:57:13 Unknown Speaker #1

You had me tricked.

0:57:14 Unknown Speaker #4

Exact and I was gaining a tummy the whole time.

0:57:17 Unknown Speaker #1

Oh my god.

0:57:17 Unknown Speaker #4

But ever since I've been just doing it, I did four push ups on the way back from the meditation.

0:57:23 Unknown Speaker #2

Oh, wow.

0:57:23 Unknown Speaker #4

Can you believe that? Great

0:57:25 Unknown Speaker #1

Wow. Because because your arms look very sweaty or

0:57:25 Unknown Speaker #2

core. Really?

0:57:29 Unknown Speaker #4

i'm really pissed off now.

0:57:30 Unknown Speaker #3

I'm angry. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:57:33 Unknown Speaker #4

But it's just we gotta quit bullshitting ourselves, going back to what Howard said. And I mean that in a nicer word, you know? A nicer word with meditation involved. But quit bullshitting ourselves. Yeah. We gotta quit living a fucking lie.

0:57:47 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes.

0:57:48 Unknown Speaker #4

We gotta just do it.

0:57:50 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes.

0:57:53 Unknown Speaker #3

Saawood. Saawood. I love that.

0:57:55 Unknown Speaker #1

Did you just think of Saawood?

0:57:57 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes.

0:57:57 Unknown Speaker #1

Just do it Saawood.

0:57:59 Unknown Speaker #3

Do it now.

0:57:59 Unknown Speaker #4

You can.

0:58:00 Unknown Speaker #1

I love that. I love that.

0:58:03 Unknown Speaker #4

Thank you. Thank you.

0:58:04 Unknown Speaker #2

It's beautiful.

0:58:05 Unknown Speaker #1

I really appreciate. I have to say this. It is so awesome that men like us can get on my could be vulnerable like this. It's beautiful. There are so many loser guys out there. Can't say a thing about their feelings. And I think we're showing these losers how you could still be cool and share your feel it.

0:58:05 Unknown Speaker #3

I love that.

0:58:25 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. Exactly.

0:58:26 Unknown Speaker #1

And if you're one of those losers, it's not too late. Go up to one of your guys and meditate with them and talk about it afterwards We put too much pressure. And let me hear you say, ladies from the back. We put too much pressure on the ladies. To deal with our feelings. Yes, lady.

0:58:46 Unknown Speaker #1

My therapist, my daughter, my ex wife, a waitress.

0:58:46 Unknown Speaker #3

Yes.

0:58:51 Unknown Speaker #4

The woman you saw on the street this morning.

0:58:53 Unknown Speaker #1

The woman was on the street this morning who I let everything out to. Because I I can only share feelings with women no more. No. I'm not a loser like these guys out here. I'm looking at you, Ben.

0:59:05 Unknown Speaker #2

So so is that what the

0:59:07 Unknown Speaker #2

your meditation?

0:59:07 Unknown Speaker #1

result of

0:59:08 Unknown Speaker #1

So I wanna get into my meditation, which I do t m Can

0:59:13 Unknown Speaker #4

i just say you are so lucky to have friends like us who went before you? Yeah. Thank you. I really

0:59:20 Unknown Speaker #1

am. I really -- Wow. -- really gave me something to deal with and and some time to think.

0:59:25 Unknown Speaker #4

So you do you do

0:59:28 Unknown Speaker #3

you do t m tendinitis meditation.

0:59:31 Unknown Speaker #1

I do tendinitis meditations. Yes. And so

0:59:34 Unknown Speaker #2

yeah. What is explain that the list here?

0:59:35 Unknown Speaker #1

Vicks do tendinitis meditations.

0:59:37 Unknown Speaker #4

Ellen? Ellen does it?

0:59:39 Unknown Speaker #1

Ellen does tenon at t m.

0:59:41 Unknown Speaker #2

Yeah. It's Every tennis player who's ever lived.

0:59:44 Unknown Speaker #1

Yes. Agesty. Yes.

0:59:46 Unknown Speaker #3

People who work at computers. Yes. And don't stand up.

0:59:51 Unknown Speaker #1

It's a tendinitis. That's like a joint pain. Right? Yeah. And the elbow It's to try now because I do

0:59:57 Unknown Speaker #4

that. Up.

1:00:01 Unknown Speaker #1

So yeah, I was doing my t m and you do it standing because you can't cross your legs or sit down. And I just went somewhere. You have a mantra. You have a mantra. And you're right. You're not supposed to share your mom out loud, but, yes, mine is Honey. And

1:00:21 Unknown Speaker #4

wow. That's Wow. That's relaxing. I can see how that gets you to a really deep place.

1:00:33 Unknown Speaker #3

And you

1:00:33 Unknown Speaker #1

heard me in there. I hope I didn't interrupt your meditation.

1:00:36 Unknown Speaker #4

No. No. No. I was so deep in my own.

1:00:38 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. I mean, I'm almost meditating now just doing the mantra. Can get into it so easily after years of t m, six thousand dollars a month, twelve months a year. You can't do the math but it's a lot.

1:00:50 Unknown Speaker #4

Thank you.

1:00:51 Unknown Speaker #1

So I was sitting there and doing my Huggies and How many years?

1:00:56 Unknown Speaker #3

He said sit.

1:01:05 Unknown Speaker #2

How many years?

1:01:06 Unknown Speaker #4

So you're paying, like, seventy two thousand a year.

1:01:09 Unknown Speaker #3

But how many years? He did he just stayed in sort of, like, geez. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:16 Unknown Speaker #1

Anyway It doesn't matter how many years. Alright? Because we can't count other people's money. Or how they're spending it wrong. All that support all that's a matter is six thousand a month for twelve months. For years. And

1:01:30 Unknown Speaker #4

because I heard

1:01:31 Unknown Speaker #3

you were the bowl that they scrape around and and tend to nice, but Yeah.

1:01:36 Unknown Speaker #1

So what they do is they they they fold me up and they cover me in aluminum foil. And then they hit me with either a mortar or a pit pestle, whichever way yeah. It's like a pit It's pretty much like getting a kebab or a shawarma.

1:01:54 Unknown Speaker #3

It's defeated, Sid Boyle. And they try to ground you up like pills with

1:02:01 Unknown Speaker #1

and then, yeah, they get one of those, and then obviously, you know, every once in a while, someone carves off a nice tender piece.

1:02:09 Unknown Speaker #4

Which makes a beautiful sound. Oh.

1:02:11 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. And when they carve yeah. When they carve off my natural noises. Covered in Cucumbers, tomatoes, onions chopped finely.

1:02:32 Unknown Speaker #4

That's a great mind.

1:02:33 Unknown Speaker #1

With tendinitis. Ellen, Agusty.

1:02:39 Unknown Speaker #3

Everybody is on a computer.

1:02:44 Unknown Speaker #2

All fake. It's essential.

1:02:45 Unknown Speaker #4

You a patient.

1:02:46 Unknown Speaker #1

Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:47 Unknown Speaker #4

Okay. They're good through their houches. Oh,

1:02:58 Unknown Speaker #3

people are, of course, each

1:02:59 Unknown Speaker #4

hey, Todd. This is this is forward of me. But can I come to your meditation class and just do a try out

1:03:05 Unknown Speaker #1

yes? Thank you. Yes. You can. Absolutely. Because of what the how's how are your knees? Well, they hurt. Fingers?

1:03:12 Unknown Speaker #4

Stinking her.

1:03:13 Unknown Speaker #1

You're in, dude. Six thousand a month, twelve months a year for some time.

1:03:17 Unknown Speaker #4

Yes. Stinking her.

1:03:19 Unknown Speaker #3

So what did you learn? Getting eaten in this class.

1:03:23 Unknown Speaker #1

And so what had occurred to me is, obviously, I have been a hero to others -- Right.

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--

1:03:30 Unknown Speaker #1

through my art. Through revealing myself.

1:03:33 Unknown Speaker #1

Through, you know, being me and letting whoever that is be judged by people.

1:03:33 Unknown Speaker #3

Yep.

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Right.

1:03:41 Unknown Speaker #1

And so what I learned is you just gotta keep being you. Yes. People keep trying to change me because I don't fit in with the norms. Mhmm. You know what I mean?

1:03:52 Unknown Speaker #4

Yeah. People like police, social workers.

1:03:54 Unknown Speaker #1

Police, social workers, the town clown.

1:03:58 Unknown Speaker #4

Everybody's trying to change you.

1:03:59 Unknown Speaker #1

It's not fair. The parent teacher association, the TSA -- Mhmm.

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flight attendants

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right. Crossing guards.

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